Sep 04 2009
 
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MLM itu Bodoh

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MLM itu bodoh.

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  1. tak entirely bodoh. the idea is brilliant. cuma some (maybe most) cases owner, member dia nak cepat kaya, tu yang buat program dia nampak bodoh.

    ada je mlm yang bagus macam avon, herbalife, tupperware, etc..

    04 Sep 09 at 12:59 pm #
  2. bal, what makes it bodoh? care to share?

    akmal, kenapa avon etc. bagus? i dun understd.

    psst…i just joined avon cos am actually using them. heh.

    04 Sep 09 at 2:12 pm #
  3. saja nak provoke hehe

    04 Sep 09 at 3:01 pm #
  4. tak semua MLM bodoh, agree with akmal. i’m in TWO of them too, what? :-) semuanya bergantung kepada diri sendiri, MLM mana yang kita join, and also which group. kalau dapat group supportive, you’re lucky. kalau dapat group yang nak telan anak buah dia, nasib la tuuuu hehe.

    kesimpulannya, don’t drink and drive. that’s it.

    05 Sep 09 at 3:49 pm #
  5. more?

    06 Sep 09 at 12:47 am #
  6. haha.. best tajuk ko ni bal. dammit provocation.

    dua sen aku. mlm is a form of distribution. actually, there is nothing wrong with it. semua distribution lain about the same.

    source -> mlm level 1 -> mlm level 2 … -> in the end customer

    source -> regional distribution -> more kedai… -> in the end customer

    different representations of the pyramid.

    cuma bile the business proposition goes like this, things are seriously messed up

    “imagine u dapat 1000 downline.. pastu bawah each of them ada 1000 downline.. lepas tu semua orang bayar komisen XXX%..”

    it is so easy to manipulate. mlm is people based, there is very little cost to create more levels… people will salivate in no time.

    cuba tukar ayat tu camni

    “imagine u bukak 1000 kedai…”.

    it will immediately stop there since they will say “pale hotak ko nak bukak 1000 kedai, ko ingat aku cap duit ke…”

    what needs to be knocked into ppl’s head is
    basically the idea of market saturation.

    MLM is capable of making money, and it is mathematically proven… but…

    only if you stay on top.

    and

    try to calculate the percentage of those below and compare them to real life.

    “1000 downline… and then 1000 downline lagi!”

    do a quick math. that’s 1 million. so in malaysia, if you’re really that lucky, boleh ada 27 orang je yang boleh jadi camtu (27 million). and even then, i would say it’s impossible!

    this is what people usually fail to realize.

    another interesting point, assume the suspect MLM uses such sales pitch. here’s an interesting experiment = substitute whatever that they’re selling with.. say.. shit.

    no seriously.

    betulll… seriously.

    and if you follow the MLM’s math, it doesn’t really matter what you sell, you still get the hyped-up returns! whoa gilelah!

    kesimpulannya:

    if you join MLM because everyone is crazily chanting the mantra illogical number of downlines, more downlines, more downlines… that’s a wrong reason to join. it’s not even MLM, it’s a glorified get-rich-quick scam.

    if not, then it’s your call, and you should know better why you join, and i’ll respect that.

    06 Sep 09 at 10:25 am #
  7. hahahahahha….cayalah samah :P

    “…so in malaysia, if you’re really that lucky, boleh ada 27 orang je yang boleh jadi camtu (27 million). and even then,….”

    Kalau cakap camtu kat MLMers yg hardcore, diorang goreng je balik, “Oh, kitorang pakai online system, so boleh carik downline worldwide!!! You target downline kat Indon je pun dah tak habis makan. Boleh buat online marketing lagi. Semua calculation commission kat mana2 negara pun sama je. You jangan risau. Tak rugi. Ni lah cara mudah dan cepat utk jadi jutawan! Takyah ada capex besar, tak yah ada itu dan ini…bla…bla…bla”

    Your head lah….

    Aku pernah dengar directly daripada sorang owner of an MLM company yang start MLM from zero until dah jadi millionaire. Then, dia pulak create company and produk yg bagi aku bodoh2 je. Waktu tu company dia baru je formed and semua yg datang preview night (a.k.a malam markaz) tu kira semua yg bakal jadi pioneers la. Dia cakap camni lebih kurang,…

    “MLM ni jangan buat lama2. You cari satu MLM company yang baru and you pukul habis dalam 4 bulan je buat sales. You dapatkan 3 org je downline yg betul2 buat kerja. Lepas tu dah, stop and gi join MLM baru yg lain pulak Then, mmg you are enroute to be a millionaire”.

    Terang2 dia punye MLM memang somehow nak scam orang. Nak pitch ajak masuk MLM company dia la sebab dia punye baru.

    So samah, kau punye point yg org atas je la yg betul2 boleh buat duit tu mmg valid la bagi aku. Lebih2 lagi, kalau commission structure dia dia jenis ‘unlimited downline’ or yg seadik-beradik dengannya.

    On the other hand, aku agree dgn Akmal yg MLM ni brilliant idea sebenarnya. Yg menconteng arang to MLM is people macam org yg aku jumpa tu. Herbalife, Amway, Avon antara contoh yg bagus gunakan MLM ni dengan baik.

    In fact, for Aidan Marketing Solution SB pun aku ada target nak ada AJL license sendiri and operate macam Network 21 yg handle MLM for Amway tu. For me, diorang mmg bagus la.

    Weh samah, http://gaban tu apasal sangap sangat hah? heheh…

    06 Sep 09 at 3:02 pm #
  8. A comment by Farquarul Arifin (Ipin)kat Facebook;

    “…pemakan deposit downliner…jual insuran lagi bagus, komisen lebih rasional.
    yg paling bodoh suruh bagi duit free RM30 masuk dalam akaun, pastu bagi flyer suruh org lain bagi duit free jugak…

    My comment: Confirm aa bodoh! Serupa pak man telo je, tsunami wang, etc. Dah la takde produk. Dari segi hukum syariat confirm tak lepas… hahahaha…

    06 Sep 09 at 3:12 pm #
  9. score sekarang:

    MLM itu bodoh vs. MLM tidak bodoh

    10 - 3

    OK continue!

    06 Sep 09 at 7:52 pm #
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    Lihat bagaimana anda juga boleh menggunakan program yang sama untuk memenuhkan akaun bank anda lebih dari RM200,000 secara otomatik…

    http://www.duitorangmalas.com/

    06 Sep 09 at 7:55 pm #
  11. kekeke

    06 Sep 09 at 7:55 pm #
  12. Konda

    aku dulu mmg join MLM…tapi aku nmpk pekong derang…aku blah….byk sgt tabur janji kat org2 yg nak masuk…bile dah masuk…ko jalan sendri la…huhuhuh

    dari segi harga barang….gile mark up…ye la…ko bayangkan…harga 40…ko jual rm200…mane pegi untung byk2 tu…kata la rm40 company amik utk run bisnes…baki tu sape dapat….kita agih2 kan…ko satu aku dua…mcm penyamun tarbus…

    barang pulak…kalo kualiti aku leh caya la…yg worldwide brand mcm tupperware…ok la..ni…MLM based malaysia…jual kopi kuat la…makanan kesihatan…pastu kuarkan sijil lab yg katanye berkesan…tapi kene ingat…lab tu pun nak idup….kuar je la sijil…jadi mangsa pelanggan la…cth terdekat kopi goji yg dulu kecoh satu malaya…sat gi…rupenye ade viagra…mampus sape yg ade heart attack…

    sistem….terlalu byk sistem….ko bal pun leh buat la system MLM..kire punya kire…ok ni pioneer leh untung….abis anak2 ikan ape cite?? dok kene mkn je la…

    lagi satu dok tukar marketing plan jek….anak2 ikan ni yg tak tau ape layankan je la…padahal yg atas tau….ooo…market dah tepu ni…adjust sket…kalo tak aku nak mkn pe…tol tak…

    kerja di cover oleh org2 kuat politik….emmpp..sah2 ade saham sket kan…kalo tak takkan nak berani2 cover…

    arini aku tinggalkan korang ngn satu website ni…korang yg terer2 kire mesti tau..mane ilang nye duit yg kate buat register….

    http://www.svr2u.com/

    korang percaya ke isi minyak kat petronas, petronas nak bagi duit?? duit baki aku percaya..
    ko percaya ke pakai kad bonuslink jek leh sembuh penyakit?? aku tak…

    skang mcm2 cara nak jadi kaya…hit and run…
    sbg manusia kene pandai menilai.

    salam.

    07 Sep 09 at 12:33 am #
  13. Alyna

    Hello all.. nice topic here, very informative :)
    anyway, all you MLM experts… let me know ur 2cents on the Eumora MLM if you’ve heard of it..

    07 Sep 09 at 1:00 pm #
  14. haha panjang tul discussion,

    bagi aku mlm yg bagus, macam yang aku cakap earlier, is mlm yg sustainable, ada real product, ada proper company (kalau listed lagi bagus), ada back by full team as normal companies.

    tapi kalau mlm yang baru kuar sebulan dua, office kat mane pun korang tak tau, website pun hampeh, product takde quality, then boleh kata tu mlm bodoh.

    07 Sep 09 at 1:25 pm #
  15. hehehe…geng2 mlm itu bodoh sudah mengganas

    markah terkini

    MLM itu bodoh vs. MLM tidak bodoh
    15-3

    PS: markah diberi secara arbitrary

    07 Sep 09 at 1:51 pm #
  16. apa beza mlm bodoh dan tak bodoh?

    Siapa yg termasuk dalam MLM bodoh dan tidak?

    07 Sep 09 at 2:42 pm #
  17. siapa penah kaya buat MLM/forex/perniagaan internet/direct selling, PLEASE post here…

    *cricket* *cricket*

    kekeke

    07 Sep 09 at 4:16 pm #
  18. saya rasa MLM adalah 85% bangang. 15% bodoh (sikit je bodoh dia).

    sebab utama MLM bangang, cam sape tah cakap tadi. harga mark up gilababi. contoh (kisah benar):

    produk A (bukan ahli): RM700
    produk A (ahli): RM500

    tapi, nak jadi ahli kene bayar RM100 setahun. What the fucuk! (saya seorang yg sopan sebab tak sebut fuck)

    07 Sep 09 at 4:23 pm #
  19. Alyna,
    Eumora tu produk facial bar kan? Boleh baca sini kot:
    1) http://www.malaysianbabes.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=22989&st=60&start=60

    2) http://www.topix.com/forum/world/brunei/T22P2RHFDNRNBHURI

    3) http://www.sgclub.com/singapore/anyone_using_mior_86417_3.html

    07 Sep 09 at 5:59 pm #
  20. oh ye…lupa lagi satu pesanan. Kalau any company provoke ajak masuk MLM diorang, check samada diorang ada AJL License or not. Takut korang dok masyuk ke hulu ke hilir buat marketing and sale…tetiba dapat tau KPDNHEP datang raid company tu. Maka habis la commission korang yg beribu-ribu tu yg company tu belum reimburse.

    Bersangka baik is good. Berhati-hati pun sangat penting. Jangan bersangka buruk or terlalu over skeptical dah. InsyaAllah we’ll be a more open minded person.

    Dunia ni manusia lebih mudah ditipu daripada menipu.

    Cheh…cam bagus je Alip ni..heheh… (Bird, kau jgn nak menjawab…kau tu pantang dapat peluang nak sakat aku je… :P)

    08 Sep 09 at 10:54 pm #
  21. MLM tak bodoh.

    18 Sep 09 at 12:04 pm #
  22. haha…

    MLM itu bodoh vs. MLM tidak bodoh
    15-4

    Geng MLM itu bodoh still menang…. :P

    18 Sep 09 at 3:10 pm #
  23. MLM Bodoh.

    Tak kisah la kalau ada 2,3 bijik yang tak bodoh. MLM still represents Bodoh and untuk orang bodoh dan MALAS.

    Sebab yang masuk MLM semua nak cepat kaya. Malas nak bersusah payah berusaha. Tak pikir long term.

    28 Sep 09 at 12:13 pm #
  24. jimitongtong

    avon singe level marketing maa. bukan mlm…

    08 Oct 09 at 2:06 pm #
  25. Jimitongtong,

    Oh, really? Why don’t you try this. Go to http://www.google.com or http://www.google.com.my and search using this string of keywords:

    “avon”+mlm

    I doubt that you are right. :P

    08 Oct 09 at 11:33 pm #
  26. Malu Lemah Mampos(MLM)…memang lah ada yg wat x mnjadi…tp kene pikir sampai biler nx mcm tu…putus asa?

    dalam reality perniagaan nie ada tuwon naek…
    tp kene engat kene bersusah dulu sblom nx capai kejayaan yg mutlak…

    MLM nie wat part time jew laa…full time ag bgus…

    MLM nie jgk kene btol pada landasan,niat yg betol nx wat perubahan diri…cari modal tok wat perniagaan pon okay…
    ..upline yg terbaik dan bimbingan yg berterusan sehingga downline pon berjaya..dalam reality nyer…slagi downline x berjaya…slagi tu lah upline x berjaya…

    11 Oct 09 at 11:25 am #
  27. kesuma

    nak join jugak pasal mlm…adelah satu mlm tu katanya baru 2 tahun kat malaysia ni…tp bila dah cuba hampeh jugak…siap masuk dlm paper tu.. amacam komen..

    15 Oct 09 at 1:18 pm #
  28. mas

    nak joint lah!!! x cuba x tau.

    24 Nov 09 at 12:49 pm #
  29. mas

    yang kata mlm bodoh tu, ada website syarikat yang dia dah berjaya usahakan x. saja nak tengok webside dia. mungkin dia seorang pengusaha atau usahawan yang berjaya abad ini. wa respect lu.. coz dah berjaya. tahniah!!

    24 Nov 09 at 1:01 pm #
  30. reen

    Bagi saya MLM tak bodoh kerana ia(MLM)bukan nyata tapi setengah2 MANUSIA itu yang JAHIL DAN BODOH kerana mereka membodohkan diri kerana INGIN KEMEWAHAN DAN KAYA dengan Drastik ………. saya bukan KAKI MLM but PEMERHATI……

    07 Dec 09 at 2:47 pm #
  31. robby

    I think MLM is good depend on the company you’re joining in. Kalau company tu suruh carik downline je, bayar join besar sampai rm500 - rm2000, and then tak yah beli barang, yang tu scam @ tipu. Tapi kalau tengok mlm macam avon, Cosway, Tupperware, Amway, Network21, CNI, DCL atau macam2 company yang masih hidup dan kukuh hingga ke hari ni, well, saya fikir berbaloi untuk join their team.
    Diaorang yang well establish ni, korang tengok dia punya membership, very cheap. Paling mahalpun RM80 plus kualiti produk diaorang pun memang tinggi.
    Well think about it..

    10 Jan 10 at 11:39 am #
  32. wafi

    hahahahaha..
    mlm itu bodoh??
    brarti ayah mertua aku guna keta mewah dan beli condo ni apa benda??
    mlm itu bodoh untuk orang yang bodoh..orang yang tak tau nak bercakap..budak yang x paham pasal barang dan mcm mana nak pilih mlm program..
    mlm tu boleh buat kaya,cuma hardwork sikitla,,dan banyak orang dah kaya kerana pandai memilih produk dan pandai jaga downline dia..
    saya x la dpat duit sangat tapi kita jgn cakap bodo pada benda yang kita x paham..
    kita la yang bodo!!!!
    saya dah tengok depan mata saya sendiri ada orang dr miskin sampai punya keta merc krana mlm..
    dia berhenti kerja krna gaji dia 4000rm sebulan..ikut mlm dapat 9k 2 minggu..
    ..ada yang jadi miskin gakk..banyak yang tetipu..pandai2 la bro n sista..
    ..
    nak sembang lebih pasal mlm call saya 0194708586..
    ..

    02 Feb 10 at 9:43 pm #
  33. MLM hebat….cuma orang yang tak berjaya dan bodoh sahaja yang bodoh..

    15 Oct 10 at 10:14 am #
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